Topic: Tempo Training Tournament

niektory wrote:

king_of_nowhere wrote:

also, congrats niektory! it's been a long time since someone managed to best worldsavior at anything in this game.

Alas, he was still better. As Boromir would say, one does not simply best WorldSavior.

you got two times out of five better than he did.

I know i don't play often, but I haven't seen him lose a single game or any single point of an economy tournament since 2016.

the-x wrote:

Well played Niektory - how did you achieve these dream times, since we rarely played in mutiplayer before i am very surprised to see these outstanding times, beating world and me in Frisian

How? A spreadsheet to account wares, identification of bottlenecks, heavy use of the PageDown button, extreme micromanagement, and multiple tries. I can't play this way in multiplayer so I'm much weaker there. ;)

and that's why i didn't try to hide my times. i don't have the patience for that level of optimization, and i figured someone would beat me to it.

speaking of multiplayer, i will try to host a regular tournament this summer.

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king_of_nowhere wrote:

speaking of multiplayer, i will try to host a regular tournament this summer.

great news. And again many thanks to our current host.

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I just searched for the last four missing replay files it was a lot of work since replay folder only saves numbers and from time you can only guess and it is nearly impossible for those if you tested balance / played a multiplayer game. Solution: automatic replay files with more details and not only numbers, with time it was possible to search for them

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king_of_nowhere wrote:

32:27 with barbarian. always amazon 6762.

theoretical best time with barbarians is 31 minutes. that's the time it takes to build a metal workshop, work it long enough to gain a master blacksmith, upgrade it to war mill, and build the 5 axes needed. i made the metal workshop as my first building, it always worked, and still i got the last axe at 30:30. add in the time for road transport and promotions.

I was thinking about this last night; and I notice that you had a follow-up saying that you could improve the time by upgrading a second metal-works while the blacksmith gains experience. It occurs to me that it might be possible to improve even beyond that. Please correct me if I'm wrong; but as I understand it, the cool-down for metal working is on the building itself, not the worker; but the experience is on the worker, not the building. So you can increase the rate at which your worker gains experience by having two metal-workshops next to each other, and kick the worker out whenever they finish a cycle. (So that instead of waiting for the cooldown, they just walk to the building next door and start working again immediately.)

I've been playing some 'poor hamlet' / 'struggling outpost' starts recently, and I've used this trick to speed up wood-cutting. I'm not certain if it will help in a tempo-tournament though. One issue is that for the technique to work, the second building must remain vacant while the first building is working; and so the player might have to do some other shenanigans to prevent the second blacksmith from getting to the building. It could be easily done by building a third metal workshop; but at that point I suppose we have the risk of running out of starting resources!

In any case, my point is that I think the hard-minimum could still be a bit lower. (So then, now you all have my secret strategy, and I'm sure someone will use it to win in a future tournament!)

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The exact problem is: Opend with the version in the table they are staying in pause mode - if you push accelerate it works till exactly min 1:00 and then the game crashes and is back to desktop

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