Topic: Maps overhaul for build21
king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 00:22
ok, done. I also updated the map description to be clearer to someone who just installed the game Top Quote |
WorldSavior |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 01:09
Would you mind if I would replace the Steppe Terrain of Long Long Way by meadow1 or something like this before the branch? Steppe Terrain reduces the fun, that's why I'd like to replace it.
-1 Why Astoria? It's just a huge unbalanced map like many others... With only 6.63 rating... And I suggest to add also some further maps: Cycles need an improved UI for up to 16 player though... Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |
Nordfriese |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 08:55
Thanks
Actually I would mind. Steppe is a terrain I like very much because trees grow well enough not to run short of wood but not as trivially well as on meadows. After expanding a bit you have access to the long ways which are made of meadow1 which is the best terrain for trees. So I'd prefer it to stay as it is.
A good map for beginners: Unbalanced, yes, but also pretty easy – but mainly because it looks just very beautiful
Sorry but I think that these maps are just plain boring. Flat maps with basically nothing there. IMHO Rechteck-Tal is very similar to Crater in its design except flat and unnaturally angular. -1. Escher Goose-Fish, mhh… if I get another +1 for this map I guess…
As long as we don't have the improved UI, a map for >8 players should not be made official IMHO. Top Quote |
WorldSavior |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 13:17
I'd like to hear opinions of others about this
It looks like it could have been generated with the map random generator (mainly), what is the point of adding such a map to the pool? It's quite similar to riverlands, main differences are the player number and that it is an island map, which is also a disadvantage. (Edit: Furthermore, if we already add Europe to the pool we already have one more big unbalanced seafaring map with optical advantages)
That might be your opinion, but there are also other opinions...
... and we don't have any balanced flat 1vs1-map so far in the pool, so this would increase diversity. Plus, it has more symmetry, size and resources than Crater. Lack of symmetry and resources are weaknesses of Crater. Oh, and there are some 1vs1-maps which we should drop maybe, for example volcanic winter, fire games and lake of tranquility...
What about an 8 player version of the map? Maybe we should wait for more opinions before changing the map pool? Edited: 2020-03-14, 13:23
Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |
simplypeachy |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 21:08
I think that people play the game for different reasons, but any maps included need to be the cream of the crop. They need to both function well and look beautiful, and the current maps meet these criteria. I certainly don't have a problem with special "challenge" or unbalanced maps, but those with only a minimal consideration for aesthetics serve to detract from the quality of the game as a whole. Perhaps effort would be better spent curating a set of map packs for players of specific play styles to download at their choice. WARNING: New-style view packet not found. There may be strange effects regarding unseen areas. |
einstein13 |
Posted at: 2020-03-14, 22:28
I used to have such a set. Unfortunately I don't have a server for that and time to fill the packages with newest maps. And as far as I remember, the usage of this was quite minimal. Few downloads every month. einstein13 |
kaputtnik Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2020-03-15, 15:22
I fully agree with simplypeachy's post. I have played Rectangular Valley and found it also plain and boring. Escher goose fish is flat but not that boring from my point of view. And in case of Astoria one may can just read the comments to know what other people think of this map Fight simulator for Widelands: |
king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2020-03-15, 17:44
then again, some people may find a flat, symmetrical map to be aesthetically pleasing for the composition. Top Quote |
Nordfriese |
Posted at: 2020-03-20, 21:23
I rather like Firegames. And while I never play Lake of Tranquility because it doesn't fit my playing style it is still a nice map. But Volcanic Winter will not be missed (at least by me). Impact is another candidate IMHO. I'd like to hear more opinions before removing any maps though. Top Quote |
WorldSavior |
Posted at: 2020-03-20, 23:01
Me for example
+1 for replacing impact Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |