Topic: Empire Seafaring Graphics

SirVer wrote: Wow, you became much more sophisticated with your use of blender, chuck! I like the ship - she looks very sturdy. I am not too fond of the swan though - it somehow mismatches my understanding of the empire. They are very arranged and military type of society - I doubt the swam would have much position in their mythology.

Some species, such as the Mute Swan (and the one on the ship looks like that type), common in Europe and Asia, can be very territorial, and will then attack any invading creatures, including humans or other swans. AFAIK, both males and females fight until death when defending their nest (however other swan species will retreat when significantly wounded). On the other hand, even the Mute Swan has been known to form larger colonies where there is plenty of food.

Philipp

Edit: s/subspecies/species/

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Progress Report

Today finds the ship evolving quite speedily:

Tillers, rigging and some sort of interior for the build yet to do. I'm still not satisfied with the textures of the wood.

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Nasenbaer wrote: I agree completely: this is a traders ship, not a battleship, so I see no reason why it should look militaristic. And well... from the water birds, the swan is the biggest and mightiest in Europe (maybe in the world?) and it is quite fast... so... +1 for keeping the swans head

Nothing to add: +1 for the swan's head

"Only few people know how much one has to know in order to know how little one knows." - Werner Heisenberg

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My 2 cents on the swan: I perfectly agree with Philipp that the swan could be a good symbol.
But it is a good symbol for those who know a bit about swans and their behavior - and for a view from the outside at the Empire.
The Empire itsself would hardly like to use the swan as a symbol for the slow take off of their settlings

On the other hand I also agree with Sirver, that the swan --especially a white swan--
is generally more a symbol of beauty and pureness and doesn't fit a centralized, organised Empire too well.
Personally, I am also a bit prejudiced and will always asssotiate a white swan ship with Galadriel's elven entourage (LotR),
but that may be true for others as well.
Another point for me is that I would rather have a seabird than a freshwater bird for a ship on the ocean.
Albatros or gannet seem a good choice.
Finally, I somehow don't really like the position at the stern. I'd rather see it on the prow, the usual place.
If so many like the swan, we may at least change its color and use a red one, or blue, but not white.

Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills.
I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino).

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@Astuur - How about a player color swan ... or other device? As the artist, and one who likes a degree of historical accuracy, I admit I am prejudiced for the current design. However, as SirVer reminds us, the Empire of WL is NOT the Roman Empire.

The corbita ships also were known to sport fish tails and perhaps other stlyings on the stern. I'll try to work up some other designs for review.

@Philipp - The gray of the deck house interior was UN-intentional. It is a "shadow" material in Blender that I mistook for a flat black from the palette. I didn't note the difference until the model was rendered. Consider it fixed.

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