Topic: make 2x the default speed

This is a potential recursive task. Now we might go from original 1x to 2x. In a few months the same starts again and we go from new 1x, which was the original 2x to new 2x which is the original 4x and so on. And why do we precisely pick 2x as new default? Why not 8x?

Seems like there is not enough micromanagement-possibilities at the moment?

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kaputtnik wrote:

stonerl wrote:

I would be in favour for keeping the default at 1x and add an option to the Main Menu where the user can set his/her preferred speed.

Looks like this is the only satisfying solution.

A poll would not help here, because 'fresh players' likely do not vote (they have to find the poll, and have to register here). So i guess the poll is influenced only by experienced players. But of course i can make one, without commitment.

Wouldn't it be interesting if there would be more polls about Widelands in general? For example what's the favorite tribe and so on?

JanO wrote:

This is a potential recursive task. Now we might go from original 1x to 2x. In a few months the same starts again and we go from new 1x, which was the original 2x to new 2x which is the original 4x and so on.

I don't think so.

And why do we precisely pick 2x as new default? Why not 8x?

I don't understand why you react so polemically...

Seems like there is not enough micromanagement-possibilities at the moment?

Actually there are a lot, but beginners tend to not micromanage a lot. So they could get bored.

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kaputtnik wrote:

GunChleoc wrote:

Maybe adding a user option would be the way to go. This way, the general default would still be 1x for new Widelands installations in all game modes

This was not intended by the thread opener

We can still discuss whether we want to make 2x the default, my suggestion does not block further discussion

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stonerl wrote:

kaputtnik wrote:

GunChleoc wrote:

Maybe adding a user option would be the way to go. This way, the general default would still be 1x for new Widelands installations in all game modes

This was not intended by the thread opener

king_of_nowhere wrote:

especially because the average new player doesn't understand that he need a dozen woodcutters if he wants to speed up constructions, so he'll build 3 and then wonder why his buildings don't get made and unistall the game because he think it's boring.

The problem I see simply is that, increasing the default speed doesn't change the fact that one has to learn the game mechanics. We should rather consider having something like a Quick Start Guide in the game, where the basic mechanics are explained.

We already have the tutorials - maybe they should become improved?

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WorldSavior wrote:

What about also adding 0.5, 1.5 and 2.5 in the line?

Similar problem of recursion for decimal factors: Why stopping at 0.5 and not 0.25? What do you want with 1.5x? What do the animations even do with those?

I did not mean to be rude, but you said yourself that 2x is still not fast. So this would not solve problems for impatient players

WorldSavior wrote:

Nordfriese wrote:

Let´s assume there is a significant number of players who will play Widelands if the default speed is 2x but not if it´s 1x. (How many players like this do you estimate are there, by the way?). Assuming this is granted, then the playerbase majority will shift towards an attitude that Widelands should be a fast fast fast game all about speed, where performing the same clicks as the opponent a split-second faster is sufficient to win.

What's fast about 2x? 1x is just very slow. And that the new players would prefer faster Widelands doesn't mean that they don't respect slow Widelands.

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