Topic: Lore
WorldSavior Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 07:16
I'd like to suggest a lore for the Atlantean fish breeders: "Only after the last deer has been shot down / Only after the last wisent has been pursued / Only after the last fish has been caught / Then will you find that spiders cannot be eaten." -- Fish breeder prophecy What do you think? German version: „Erst wenn der letzte Hirsch geschossen, der letzte Elch erlegt, der letzte Fisch gefangen ist, werdet Ihr merken, dass man Spinnen nicht essen kann.“ -- Weissagung der Fischzüchter Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |
hessenfarmer |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 07:50
That sounds like an old Greenpeace slogan. But I'd love to have more Lore in the game. So one of my first tasks for b21 is to incorporate the barbarian Lore already available into the game, I could esily add an Atlantean Lore as well. Regarding your proposal I would leave out the deer and wisent as they have nothing to do with fish. And I would replace spiders with Diamonds as the Atlanteans love precious stones. This would result in Top Quote |
WorldSavior Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 08:00
That's exactly the point
But diamonds cannot be produced when no more animals (including fish) are available. So my version wants to show that fish breeders are necessary, as the Atlanteans don't have something like a piggery... And isn't it more funny with "spiders" instead of "diamonds"? My version is meant to be funny Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |
king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 15:27
i llike it. yes, it adapts one old slogan (which, iirc, was first uttered by a native american chief) to widelands. although technically you can eat spiders, and they should be quite nutritious Top Quote |
stonerl |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 16:57
I found some nice ones on this site. These two I liked the most:
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hessenfarmer |
Posted at: 2019-03-04, 19:34
After a second thought it fits better with the beginning of WorldSavior, but I am still somewhat unhappy with the spiders due to they are eatable. How would it fit with spidercloth instead? Top Quote |
king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2019-03-05, 00:23
maybe golden tabards. should be some specific high-value atlantean ware to keep the theme Top Quote |
GunChleoc |
Posted at: 2019-03-05, 10:39
I'd be OK with either spidercloth or golden tabards. I also think that pursued -> hunted would sound more natural in English. Busy indexing nil values Top Quote |
WorldSavior Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-03-05, 13:53
I think that this depends on the species. And it's also a question of cultural perspective, as Atlanteans also don't eat horses or unsmoked fish.
See above...
I prefer "spiders" because i think that its funnier.
This would be also okay. I searched a translation of the "Weissagung der Cree" and found only "Cree Indian prophecy", so I changed it to "Fish Breeder prohecy", to be as close as possible to the original.
But golden tabards cannot be produced if meat and fish are gone...
the original is "poisoned", so I've chosen "pursued" because it looks similar. Edited: 2019-03-05, 13:56
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hessenfarmer |
Posted at: 2019-03-05, 16:38
The point from my perspective is Atlanteans don't eat horses due to their culture or taste but horses can be eaten. So a lore stating something technically wrong in an explizit way (i.e. Spiders cannot be eaten) somehow doesn't feel right to me.
From my perspective the fun comes from the clear reference to the Slogan of the 80's. I already imagined a fish breeder with a sticker of this Slogan attached to his back. For me thinking of eating Spiders isn't funny due to being not obscene.
According to Wikipedia this is a false cite anyhow.
That why I choose spidercloth in my second attempt. As the atlanteans clearly love nice / valuable things and we should choose a ware that can be produced without fish or meat, what about the term " shiny tabards". This would be closer to the original anyhow.
What about "preyed"? And I might suggest to exchange Wisent with game as being a more general term for no meat. So my latest Version would read: Top Quote |