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WorldSavior Joined: 2016-10-15, 04:10 UTC+2.0 Posts: 2154 OS: Linux Version: Recent tournament version One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2017-12-06, 20:49 UTC+1.0 einstein13 wrote: After watching the replay I realized, that at the end your soldiers production was a bit broken. Not every dungeon & labyrinth were working. Of course it was nothing against my loses. I codun't win anyway. Yes, I stopped most of my trainingssites. But I think that it was a good move: Doing this increased the amount of wares a lot, so I could start to expand much better. I should have done it earlier Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote

einstein13 Topic Opener Joined: 2013-07-29, 00:01 UTC+2.0 Posts: 1116 One Elder of Players Location: Poland	Posted at: 2017-12-06, 22:26 UTC+1.0 WorldSavior wrote: einstein13 wrote: After watching the replay I realized, that at the end your soldiers production was a bit broken. Not every dungeon & labyrinth were working. Of course it was nothing against my loses. I codun't win anyway. Yes, I stopped most of my trainingssites. But I think that it was a good move: Doing this increased the amount of wares a lot, so I could start to expand much better. I should have done it earlier ;-) So there was a chance to win with you. But it was rather 10% than 80% I was developing my economy to handle at least 3 trainingsites at 100%. Probably I have to test if I still can do that! Then I will tell if it was a possibility to win with you einstein13 calculations & maps packages: http://wuatek.no-ip.org/~rak/widelands/ backup website files: http://kartezjusz.ddns.net/upload/widelands/ Top Quote

WorldSavior Joined: 2016-10-15, 04:10 UTC+2.0 Posts: 2154 OS: Linux Version: Recent tournament version One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2017-12-07, 15:13 UTC+1.0 einstein13 wrote: WorldSavior wrote: einstein13 wrote: After watching the replay I realized, that at the end your soldiers production was a bit broken. Not every dungeon & labyrinth were working. Of course it was nothing against my loses. I codun't win anyway. Yes, I stopped most of my trainingssites. But I think that it was a good move: Doing this increased the amount of wares a lot, so I could start to expand much better. I should have done it earlier ;-) So there was a chance to win with you. But it was rather 10% than 80% Isn't that still too optimistic? I was developing my economy to handle at least 3 trainingsites at 100%. Probably I have to test if I still can do that! Then I will tell if it was a possibility to win with you ;) If you have 3 trainingssites, at least one of it must be a colosseum. So this means that your production would be not bigger than 2 trainings camps. And 2 trainings camps are slower than 2 dungeons, even if the dungeons have only 80% productivity. And I had 3 of those dungeons which I could have let work again - and already a really big army Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote

einstein13 Topic Opener Joined: 2013-07-29, 00:01 UTC+2.0 Posts: 1116 One Elder of Players Location: Poland	Posted at: 2017-12-08, 00:51 UTC+1.0 WorldSavior wrote: einstein13 wrote: So there was a chance to win with you. But it was rather 10% than 80% Isn't that still too optimistic? I just mention our talk, when I assumed two scenarios: small chances to win with you (10% is only the name here) and huge chances to win with you (80% is just the name here). I can't calculate any probability/chances of win for both of us. I was developing my economy to handle at least 3 trainingsites at 100%. Probably I have to test if I still can do that! Then I will tell if it was a possibility to win with you ;) If you have 3 trainingssites, at least one of it must be a colosseum. So this means that your production would be not bigger than 2 trainings camps. For me "trainingsite" means colloseum + training camp in one place, so that they can produce fully promoted soldiers at once. It will be much faster (~50%) than 2 pairs of labirynt + dungeon. einstein13 calculations & maps packages: http://wuatek.no-ip.org/~rak/widelands/ backup website files: http://kartezjusz.ddns.net/upload/widelands/ Top Quote

WorldSavior Joined: 2016-10-15, 04:10 UTC+2.0 Posts: 2154 OS: Linux Version: Recent tournament version One Elder of Players Location: Germany	Posted at: 2017-12-08, 15:03 UTC+1.0 einstein13 wrote: WorldSavior wrote: einstein13 wrote: So there was a chance to win with you. But it was rather 10% than 80% Isn't that still too optimistic? I just mention our talk, when I assumed two scenarios: small chances to win with you (10% is only the name here) and huge chances to win with you (80% is just the name here). I can't calculate any probability/chances of win for both of us. Okay... I was developing my economy to handle at least 3 trainingsites at 100%. Probably I have to test if I still can do that! Then I will tell if it was a possibility to win with you ;) If you have 3 trainingssites, at least one of it must be a colosseum. So this means that your production would be not bigger than 2 trainings camps. For me "trainingsite" means colloseum + training camp in one place, so that they can produce fully promoted soldiers at once. It will be much faster (~50%) than 2 pairs of labirynt + dungeon. I don't see that. My calculation tells me that an economy with 3 trainingscamps can "produce" fully promoted soldiers not even 10% faster than a full economy with 2 labyrinths... And I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger power of atlantean elite-soldiers could equalize 10% And I had such an economy with 3 labyrinths and it would have been possible to increase it by 33%... Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote

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