Topic: Barbarian Fortress/Citadel Models

Here are a couple of the other models (I'm gathering quite a collection) rendered with oversampling. Please pay no attention to the roofs or wells or stone wall in the tallfortress. I plan to use the same roof, well and wall as in the citadel, unless the majority prefers otherwise.

fortress: tallfortress: and tallfortress3:

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I must say they're looking a lot better than the current versions :)!

I think the darker colours seem to fit the barbarians better, especially since they use BLACKwood so i prefer the tallfortress 3 over the other tallfortresses.

Citadel 5 looks like a keeper to me!

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Astuur wrote: I've loaded the new models into the game and had a closer look at 640x480 on 24". Chuck, they are more then a bit too blurry now compared with the other buildings.

Oh dear...

The style is great, the model is very fine, but if I had to choose the grainy one would come on top of the new blurry models as far as the texture go - no matter whether Open GL is on or not. Is there a way to adjust the oversampling? I hope so.

Yes, there is, but Blender allows a minimum of 5 samples, offering presets of 5, 8, 11 and 16 samples.
Here is the result: compared to : (the first citadel5 image with 11 samples). The only other difference between these images of the model is the material I used on the drawbridge.
However, I believe I have identified the cause of the problem with these renders. For speed of delivery and discussion, I have been taking some shortcuts with these examples, rendering the 100x100 images directly from Blender. Blender is notorious for coming up short with its rendering. Many artists will rely on other rendering tools like Yafaray for better results. So after shooting myself in the foot, I will redo these with my standard method of rendering a 400x400 no oversampling image and then resizing it with the "Multiple Image Resizer.net" utility. We'll see how that turns out.

If all else fails, you may want to try to average your wall and roof texture before using them in the model, and turn oversampling back off. I have manually blurred the grainy model (re-sharpening the new one did not work), and show it here

I have probably overdone some parts and done too little to others, but for the main part is looks okay in the game. I know this manual postprocession does not help you. It's just to give you an idea about the crispness.

I've not had these problems with my usual methods of operation. We'll see if they get ironed out with my standard MO before undertaking any major surgery.

I'm not sure what you intended underneath the drawbridge - water? Nice idea of course, but that will be very hard to do! Currently it looks like a greenish shadow and blends strangely into the landscape.

To give the drawbridge a reason for its existence, I'm attempting to convey a 3D moat with a 2D plane. If it looks that bad (and I didn't think it did), I will remove it or remodel it as an actual 3D depression.

Stay tuned. The search continues...

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I'm beginning to really dig moats! (Pun intended!!!)
What do you think of this one? citadel6:

The moat is 3D and even sports some submerged vegetation. It should make for a really neat build sequence, (if I ever get that far.)

I'm considering making the "moat liner" semi-transparent to adapt to the terrain on which it is built. For now, though, it is fully opaque.

If you want to try it in a game, use a hot spot around 105 96.

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@astuur: that camp will anyway be remodeled, its still on the list of bug 677337

i think: 2 thumbs up, that citadel is perfect gotta catch up with my warehouse now (havn't got build sequence either ^^`)

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