Topic: Reworking the economic options window

Listing all buildings or not:

In the action box (when you click on the build help) definitively all buildings must be listed. I use this box to see which building I forgot (there's always one ) The discussion about leaving out the not captured buildings concerns the menu statistics --> building statistics.

In my opinion, if there is already an extra tab in the building statistics (so: enough space) for foreign buildings, all (including the not (yet) captured) buildings should be listed.

Economy options:

Adjusting a target quantity for a ware is somehow the same as adjusting the "target quantity" (more, less, none) in a warehouse, just for the whole economy, isn't it? Or the other way round the warehouse adjustment is something like a local target quantity. The warehouse adjustment has influence on the transport and storing, while the economy options influences the productivity of different buildings. But both regulate a quantity of wares (either local or general). I see enough parallels too legitimate a similar design, but perhaps it seems confusing at the beginning.

Anyway, in my opinion, there's no big con against maintaining the present menu for the economy window, and just correct the order of the wares into a thematical sorting. So also the two options "permanent" and "temporary" persist. By the way, do you know what temporary means? (in sec/ min)

Greetings, Kristin

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Perhaps there was a misunderstanding: warehouse adjustment and economy options are two different things and should both persist, I think we all agree on this.

The second question is if we maintain the "temporary"option in the economy options. I don't use them, Sirver not either. Do you? If someone may tell me how to use them reasonably, I can perhaps enhance my playing

Sirver told me another aspect of the economy options menu, perhaps it was already said in this or another thread: The economy options menu has to become much smaller, because (esp. in low resolutions) it takes too much place. So leaving the present design and just reassort the order of the wares doesn't work.
My proposal is to design it similar to the warehouse menu, which is very compact. The number on the bottom of each icon remains (perhaps in another colour) and indicates the target quantity. Additionally, for each icon there are three buttons: up, down, reset.
So the economy options menu will be just a little bit bigger than the warehouse menu. You can see a mock-up here: http://www.widelands.org/~sirver/wl/blueprint_menus/hq_and_eco_compare.png

I resume the different things we discuss (which I will add to the blueprint as soon as we agreed):
-Economy options menu (sorting, illustration, +- temporary)
-Building statistics (+-show uncaptured foreign buildings, +-new tab for captured foreign buildings) -Implementing (Hard coded or on a per tribe basis)

Cheers, Kristin

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Kristin wrote: In my opinion, if there is already an extra tab in the building statistics (so: enough space) for foreign buildings, all (including the not (yet) captured) buildings should be listed.

I see things different, as:

• You can play a game with just one or two different tribes (e.g. Barbarians and Empire, still the list would show the atlantean buildings although there is no way you can capture one of those (please keep on mind, that technical the engine handles these buildings as one of the tribe's (in this case barbarians) and not of the original tribe (in this case atlanteans))
• I would prefare to list all special buildings there, including the different types of headquarters. So to avoid that the different types of headquarters are listed there (you can even just start with a warehouse,...), it's a good idea to hide all of those buildings you do not own.

Further I like the idea of having a nearly empty list of "special buildings" at the beginning, so I can more easily see what kind of buildings I conquered (if all possible buildings are shown, it will take some time to filter all "0" buildings out).

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Nasenbaer wrote:

You can play a game with just one or two different tribes (e.g. Barbarians and Empire, still the list would show the atlantean buildings although there is no way you can capture one of those

Oh, I didn't know that ALL buildings are shown. That's not logical, the buildings that are not in the game (=not possible to conquer) should not be shown.
I would like to show all possible-to-conquer-buildings, not only the ones already conquered, because the own buildings are shown in the same way (and we also have to filter the "0" buildings there). But it's only a slight preference. The most important for me in changing the menus is the sorting.

Sirver wrote:

maybe the temporary could be packed into a new paradigm that is configured via an extra tab that could be named "remittance work" or something like that.

It seems very complicated (to understand for players) to introduce a new tab for the temporary-option. In my opinion, temporary and permanent regulating should be shown together, if we maintain temporary (what seems preferable, if some players use it).

Cheers,
Kristin

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Perhaps we should merge the blueprint UsabilityWareSorting with your's Kristin?

Cheers

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