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Topic: Axes - the Barbarian dilemma

Joined: 2009-02-28, 10:08
Posts: 733
One Elder of Players
Location: Frankfurt / Germany
Posted at: 2009-03-17, 08:45

Barbarians currently seem at an disadvantage: When you play Greenland, what you need most from the very beginning are tree choppers - and they need axes. Unfortunately young Barbarian soldiers also need those same axes. To make things worse, the axes are produced in an axe factory, an enhanced building, that you cannot readily build but must upgrade from a smithy. Since we have auto-seeding trees now, the demand for lumberjacks (and therefore axes) is permanent, since you must leave some, to prevent the trees from invading your settling ground.

No other tribe has this problem.

I would rather see the axe for soldiers and the axe for lumberjacks be two different things. (i. e. a new ware created) and the lumberjacks's tool produced at the smithy together with all the rest of the tools. As for names, the lumberjack could use a hatchet (German: Beil) while the axe could remain the barbarian's basic soldier's weapon.

I understand that most - maybe all- of this can be configured in the conf files, but I wonder whether the distribution should not be modified accordingly from the start, to make playing widelands a more enjoyable experience for newcomers.

Being no programmer, I apologize for all my suggestions that imply undue workload and for other misjudgements due to lack of expertise or relevant skills.
I am on Win32, have no means to compile, and rely on prefabricated distributions (Thanks to Tino).

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Joined: 2009-02-21, 18:17
Posts: 829
One Elder of Players
Location: Germany
Posted at: 2009-03-17, 13:34

Thanks for noteing this. I fixed this problem by reverting the change that disallowed the metalworks to produce axes. I think it's fine that both soldiers and lumberjacks use axes - the problem simply was that you needed an enhanced building to produce axes and that's neither fair for lumberjack nor soldier training, as the two other tribes may simply create their workers and soldiers without enhancing a building before.

Cheers Peter

Edited: 2009-03-17, 13:34

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Joined: 2009-03-10, 03:57
Posts: 12
Pry about Widelands
Location: Roseville, California, US
Posted at: 2009-03-30, 05:38

Thank you for fixing that. The Barbarians are my favorite tribe, but I hate being limited by the number of axes I start with at the beginning of the game and havivng to wait to enhance the toolworks to make more.

I hied to Kolob and all I got was this lousy planet.

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