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hessenfarmer
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Posted at: 2023-07-25, 17:26

WorldSavior wrote:

Plus, it might be hard to organize a match for 8 players. It's not a drama if the tournament just contains 1v1 matches face-wink.png

that is true and it might be a fallback solution if it would not be possible to have such a match, but I would be really sad if we would not be able to have it. We never had such a match and we would write widelands history if it will work.


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Posted at: 2023-07-26, 07:53

A new Image from me, for compare all candidate maps for widelands naval warfare tournament 2023

suggested by Nordfriese :
https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/5801/?page=2#post-40466 (The Sea Kingdom)

suggested by the-x :
https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/5801/?page=2#post-40473 (27 Islands becoming 3) , (Die vier Wikinger ,also named as Surreal Valleys) , (Wikinger Fjorde Seefahrer Turnierkarte)

suggested by hessenfarmer :
https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/5801/?page=3#post-40530 (Naval Ice Wars)

suggested by Teayo :
https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/5801/?page=3#post-40508 (Far small islands) [Link is only for compare with old image]

Edited: 2023-07-26, 07:57

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Posted at: 2023-07-26, 17:48

Btw it might be also good to test a map where it's not necessary to make a naval invasion. To see how the strategy "naval invasion" compares to "land invasion".

@Teayo: What about the maps which I've suggested?

hessenfarmer wrote:

No, it doesn't, it shouldnt give points. Maybe just Buchholz. And the playtime could be shorter, too.

Ok, It would have been easier, if you provided some rational, why we shouldn't win points. But I guess it is due to the usage of diplomacy. This sounds reasonable so I'll change it to just give Buchholz resulting in 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5 Bucholz for the first 4 places.

For the playtime I realized from the test matches that it may take some time in such a constellation until the the war ships really come into action. So I thought this to be a good time at least for some players to leave the map.
If you get 50% of the map earlier it will be finished earlier anyway.

Yes, diplomacy makes it kind of imbalanced, so its not necessarily fair if the winner gets points.


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Posted at: 2023-07-26, 20:41

Ops sorry WorldSavior,
I missed your post with your map suggestions on page 1. I started with the-x map suggestions on page 2.
I will of course add to your map suggestions now.

suggested by WorldSavior : https://www.widelands.org/forum/topic/5801/?page=1#post-40407
* Ice Wars (Naval Ice Wars) for preshow of the map, look my previous post upper
* Forest Valley Tournament Version
* Together we are strong
* The Nile (blue vs red)
* Calvisson (blue vs red or green vs yellow)

I have changed my (Teayo) suggestons for candiate maps from "Far small islands" to [ "Far small islands" , "Forest Valley Tournament Version" ]


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Posted at: 2023-07-26, 20:58

Ok I just chose the maps for round 0 (the Battle Royale) and round 1.

I included the rules for the battle royale as well in the rules. ( se post #3)

Positions for round 0 will be drawn after setting the date.


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Posted at: 2023-07-27, 16:16

I have now added my completed map "Far small islands" to my map collection addon along with the other unfinished maps.
I don't want to propose unfinished maps for the tournament, so I'm withdrawing my candidate map proposals for the remaining unfinished maps.
The reason for this is that these maps are not ready before the tournament starts.
Map is in Addon Version : 2


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Posted at: 2023-07-27, 18:35

Thanks face-smile.png


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Posted at: 2023-07-31, 15:05

Hi! I would like to participate. However, I have a problem with freedesktop.Platform version and so I can't somehow get the beta version installed. I'm using flathub-beta repo. When trying, it says that org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/21.08 runtime can not be found. However, when flatpak lists installed versions, I have 20.08, 21.08 and 22.08 installed on user level. I suppose they're all x86_64 versions.


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Posted at: 2023-07-31, 15:55

stormax-e wrote:

Hi! I would like to participate. However, I have a problem with freedesktop.Platform version and so I can't somehow get the beta version installed. I'm using flathub-beta repo. When trying, it says that org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/21.08 runtime can not be found. However, when flatpak lists installed versions, I have 20.08, 21.08 and 22.08 installed on user level. I suppose they're all x86_64 versions.

I suppose you also have the main flathub repo enabled if you have these runtimes installed? The runtimes have to be installed from there. I've just checked, and 21.08 is still available there (even got an update yesterday).

On my system it also pulled in org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default, org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel and org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264.

Also I suppose you try to install Widelands with --user too?


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Posted at: 2023-07-31, 18:06

Well, if we are more than 8 participants i could imagine to skip the diplomacy match (so a bigger map is not necessary?) - and I wouldn't insist on the forfeit in the next round neither.


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