Topic: The great Stormflood add tips for final stormflood
TuStudent Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-11-03, 11:33
I played: "Von Wasser zu Eis"(german for "From Water to Ice") -> "Die Große Sturmflut" (german for " The great Stormflood"). I found the Stormflood quite challenging (if would have not replayed the last part): Honestly, I had to play the last part three times.
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Tribal-Chief |
Posted at: 2019-11-03, 14:31
It is completly logical that if a buiding floods so does its flaag and road, it is no longer part of the economy, and thw worker cannot walk on water so he dies. If you play sensibly you do not need needles fot the weaving mill. Once you have the target super soldiers dismantle the sewing room and tailors, send the worker to the most East warehouse. In fact you should be sending all workers and tools, as well as building materials as far East as you can as soon as you can. The 'secrets' of this scnario are transport and warehouses. I realise that not finishing it due to forgetting something simple can be frustrating, especially as it is a god awful boring scenario, the thought of playing it again is not a happy thought. The next scenrio for Frisians is even worse though. For your suggestions my personal view is -
Edited: 2019-11-03, 14:31
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king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2019-11-03, 15:37
yes, but that only happens if you already know you'll be flooded and can move wares in advance. if you lack this foreknowledge, it's unlikely that you will be able to salvage the game, as all your economy will be in the west part of the island, which will be flooded in a few minutes. and the autosave is made when the flood already started and it's too late to do anything. I had to reload a previous save myself. by the way, i liked the second frisian scenario, though it's a bit long Top Quote |
TuStudent Topic Opener |
Posted at: 2019-11-03, 16:06
No the flag ist still alive when the builing floodes/crashes.
Ok, thats right, but the transport does not work throug a forest wall building material will block all your pathes and lumberjacks are too slow to make more pathways.
Sorry, but you missunderstood me. As soon as you know which buildings you have too build you can add a list of materials/worker for each requested building, there is nothing to spoil, just a hint to remember. I think you should also add that you also have to start a expedtion (that was not that clear to me). Top Quote |
Nordfriese |
Posted at: 2019-11-03, 17:54
When the building is destroyed, all workers within drown before they can get out. (only realistic)
No need to have a list of building material, but we could add a hint that a seamstress (=needles) and a shipwright (=hammer) will be necessary, and the optimum priority of building the required sites (first start the port as it usually needs longest, then build the shipyard; weaving mill is not as urgent). P.S. It seems to be quite normal that one does not manage to complete this scenario on the first try without reloading. Personally I find scenarios where you play through easily in one go a bit dull… Edited: 2019-11-03, 18:00
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king_of_nowhere |
Posted at: 2019-11-04, 01:10
i don't think it will change anything. the problem is that most players (including me) will quickly build up economy near their starting position. then, against an ai, it's not worth expanding too much, so you leave your basic economy there. you may make more farms around, but every important building, every source of all the basic construction materials, it will all be in the west. and it will get flooded before you can salvage anything. there is no amount of hinting, short of straight out telling the player to make a warehouse on the east and stock it full, that will change that. what can actually be done, though, is to add an autosave when the player comes close to the enemy headquarter. that way, if he wasn't saving often, he won't have to reload all the way to 3 hours earlier.
I agree on that, though i don't really like the way this is set up (virtually impossible if you don't know the trick, very easy once you do). By the way, a bit of a tangent here, but if the other guy curses you and the island get flooded, the answer is probably to convert to his god, who is clearly much stronger than whatever you worship. then again, they were worshipping him, and you defeated them; so their god had the power to send floods, but not to protect his people? that's food for a big theological debate. EDIT: on another tangent, is it intentional that all the text of the campaign come across as self-centered doublethink? Your chief talks very self-righteous about other people being bad and infringing on your rights and being forced to take up arms against them, but in practice what you're doing is landing in other people's lands, claiming them as your own, and killing anyone who disagrees Edited: 2019-11-04, 01:17
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Nordfriese |
Posted at: 2019-11-04, 08:44
Good point, I´ll add an autosave when the player is about (how far exactly? ~40 fields?) away from the HQ, and add a hint in the final objective that he can reload that one if he doesn´t have enough time to move enough stuff eastwards.
Worship me or I´ll drown you all, hehe… wonderful attitude, who wouldn´t want to love him.
In the Holy Bible, the Lord God often does not help his people directly but can be rather vindictive against those who behave in an inacceptable way against them…
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WorldSavior |
Posted at: 2019-11-04, 18:12
+1 Wanted to save the world, then I got widetracked Top Quote |
teppo |
Posted at: 2019-12-08, 09:38
I just played this. Should the recycling center be enabled once the first super soldier is created? At that point, the player will have some scrap items. In addition, once the ship was set up, I got a "cannot execute (null)" message. There might be a bug lurking somewhere.
Despite all this, could this god still instruct the player to build some essential construction items (warehouse, brickmaker, reed farm, well/claypit, woodharvester/planter and so) to the frontline, when player is nearing the enemy HQ? If so, all the player would need to do after the catastrophe is to send the shipbuilder from HQ to frontline warehouse? Top Quote |
Nordfriese |
Posted at: 2019-12-08, 10:25
It could be silently enabled like the charcoal burner, but new players might wonder what this new building does and why it isn´t explained
Do you have a savegame shortly before this?
My statement referred to the Christian God (whom the red player worships), whereas the player worships the old Northern gods (who do not interact with him or help him at all). But the advisor could suggest this of course… Top Quote |