Topic: Out of fields

Tibor wrote:

So you will eliminate counter altogether then?

Yes, the counter is gone. It is better to have only 1 mechanic, everything else would be confusing, both in the code and for setting the parameters in the conf.

I am also publishing a notification for all buildings now and not just for mines, so once we have found good values, the AI could use them to decide when to dismantle a fisher's hut / build more foresters etc.

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DragonAtma wrote:

I'd go with a higher percentage for woodcutters. Seeing as foresters are very cheap and logs are the basis of every single new building, there's no excuse not to have the woodcutters warning a LOT higher than 20% (I recommend a number somewhere around 60%, maybe even 70-80%).

I disagree. For most woodcutters- yes, but when the map is big enough and have very good soil everywhere (or almost everywhere), the trees are spamming all around, but slowly. So you should have some foresters in one place and few woodcutters around to basic wood prodcution. A bit far away from that place you will build some other woodcutters (1 or 2 for each side: N, S, E, W, where is good soil). And those woodcutters will have productivity around 20-30%. But I need to test it to be sure what productivity is there

If you don't build those woodcutters, trees will stop your farms after few hours of gameplay.

About vineyards: they can contain up to 5 fields. 3 is still acepttable to me. Less- no. But this is my style of game. Wine for Empire is something very expensive. You don't have much vineyards, because they need some space & lots of marble. And marble is from mines that consume... wine. So in my opininon wine is expensive, what indicates that place around vineyards is quite important. 3 vines at least

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einstein13 wrote:

DragonAtma wrote:

I'd go with a higher percentage for woodcutters. Seeing as foresters are very cheap and logs are the basis of every single new building, there's no excuse not to have the woodcutters warning a LOT higher than 20% (I recommend a number somewhere around 60%, maybe even 70-80%).

I disagree. For most woodcutters- yes, but when the map is big enough and have very good soil everywhere (or almost everywhere), the trees are spamming all around, but slowly. So you should have some foresters in one place and few woodcutters around to basic wood prodcution. A bit far away from that place you will build some other woodcutters (1 or 2 for each side: N, S, E, W, where is good soil). And those woodcutters will have productivity around 20-30%. But I need to test it to be sure what productivity is there

If you don't build those woodcutters, trees will stop your farms after few hours of gameplay.

About vineyards: they can contain up to 5 fields. 3 is still acepttable to me. Less- no. But this is my style of game. Wine for Empire is something very expensive. You don't have much vineyards, because they need some space & lots of marble. And marble is from mines that consume... wine. So in my opininon wine is expensive, what indicates that place around vineyards is quite important. 3 vines at least

Well, different people have different ways of playing Widelands. I generally cluster four or so foresters together, with five or so woodcutters in a loose ring around them. That way, I've got a steady logs supply with no risk of the trees slipping out. If I get big enough, I may need to repeat the same thing elsewhere to produce more logs. Any other woodcutters are only temporary, as they'd only be used top remove spare trees (possibly from a clueless AI who has too many foresters and not enough woodcutters!)

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